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I just think it is a REALLY bad idea as I had at least 1 novice I was riding with try to 'warm' his tires as well on the way to the start. I had to instruct him NOT to do that, and those people doing that are just idiots.

Seriously.

- dow

I didn't warm my tires on the way to start... but I did drag my brakes a little to get them 'ready'. No quick stops mind you, just a light drag with the left foot while I was driving up.

We have to do this at all events in the Porsche GT3 because the first corner with those ceramic brakes is interesting to say the least.

adamb

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Adam Breakey
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Somone define "tire warming" for me. Are we talking about F1 style edge to edge swerves across the taxiway, dragster style lighting the tires up (aka burn outs), small steering movements or something else?

Driving the long drive from the grid to the start, I was mentally going through my run and I probably was making a few small steering movements (move car +/- 1 foot or so). I guess someone could think I was trying to warm the tires?!?

Does anyone really think you can significantly warm up street tires by doing any of this? Anyone doing edge to edge swerves should be talked to and told to stop. And accelerating enough to break tires loose should result in immediate escort off the site.

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call me stupid as yes i did do some swerving. (maybe one run) but my theory is any little heat is better than none. but as it appears this is not acceptable behavior i will curtail my activities.

i too drag my brakes to get some heat in them.

The folks I saw were doing more than mental preparation. Looked like the warm up lap for NASCAR. I don't know your car so I can't point to you This was run group 1-A.

I brake drag on cold days and use the launch to heat up all 4 tires.

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Put the grid a little closer than a 1/2 mile away from the start. Actually it serves two purposes...a little warmth in the r-comps and cleans the tires.

I see no problem with it as long as you are under the recommended speed limit...which I was.

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I'm guilty as well. I wasn't going particularly fast nor was I using the entire width of the taxiway, but I definitely did a little swerving. What I was doing certainly wasn't dangerous. I had no idea people would feel so strongly about it. I think it was a little help with the new A6s since they felt a little slippery in the first couple turns before getting a little heat.

I agree. I'm guilty of some minor movement also -- there were a couple of spots on that long trip down when the r-comps slung up a ton of pebbles, so I did some minor weaving after passing through that junk to help clean any embedded stuff out. Never was this any wild movement, and I might mention that I was traveling slower that whole route down to the start than some experienced club members where when they were driving past the grid of cars.

BTW, where was the water box?

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Actually, I heard it was a NO-NO but I don't feel strongly about it. Honest question: Is it allowed at regional/national competitions?

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I am guilty of doing some weaving as well. I do it to get some of the stones that build up on the r-comps off more than anything, but I was going slow and didn't more more than about 3 feet side to side with no one around me.

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Same here. Happy to be with all the idiots.

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Maybe an ITR in DS.
Or half-assed STX prepped 330.

At national events, you rarely get enough room to even weave a little bit. Grid is much more closely monitored at the national stuff and usually there are way too many people around to try to get heat in the tires.

Now heat in the brakes I do try to do in grid at the National events. I know I did some warming of the tires on my first run of the day on Sunday, but that was more to get an idea of the turn in of the car, considering I had never been behind the wheel of it before that run.

- AB

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Huh. I always used leather gloves for the destoning before the tire cooled.

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Well, how about this then:

- What is the THSCC 'official' opinion on this matter?

This way, I can tell the NOVICES "You can/can't do this" along with the "use your head".

It was MY understanding this was NOT allowed, and 'THSCC members' were NOT supposed to do this as to NOT encourage impressionable NOVICES. If I am wrong -- fine. Just no double standards here.

[flame suit on]

- dow

Ps. I do stupid things at times, as we all do, but I was under the strict impression that was BAD. With 40+ NOVs, it is a bad example (like people walking IN FRONT of the cones in the spectator area, then NOVs with dogs walking basically up to workers stations).

I did it too at slow speed in 1st gear it was more to clean the tire than to heat them up.
Anyhow you had to wait some time in line before starting your run so any little heat you had put to them
was probably gone. Maybe it had a psychological effect!!!!!!!

Patrice