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Well, obviously, according to Jason, the STi should be in STX as well.

I vote we just move the STis to STX, and I have no issue with it.

- dow

Changing the class definitions in AXware shouldn't be too difficult. First download the latest class defs. from AXWARE and put the file in the folder that has contains all your event data. Then go to the setup menu in AXWARE and select "class definitions". A dialog box will pop up that will show all the class index times (which can be edited manually) and a way to load a new file. You just select the file and you're done.

As mentioned, if you need to customize the file for specfic thscc classes, you can open up the class definitions in AXWARE and change the index numbers manually.

Jeff

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STS - 91 Honda Civic Si
S04 - 00 Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS

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Shut up, fools!! The STi, has a larger then 2.0L engine. I even told him that I thought it was strange that all the STis run in STU, but it looks like the EVO fit the requirements perfectly.

Class exclusion lists are ghey. If you don't want a car in that class, then design the rules around it. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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If I can move my caR back to GS, that's a DEAL!

I agree with Ryan, the guy in the Evo MR was really friendly. I know because I was being outgoing hoping he's need a novice mentor.

Well, if he was, I would have hoped that he would have changed his class after being told directly multiple times he was in the wrong class.

Looking stupid out on course is worse than your car looking stupid due to having to change your class letters (and only the last letter).

I would like to see more Evos out there, and I am not tryin got be TOO harsh on him, but I know he was talked about this at least a few times.

- dow

I wonder why there was resentment to change from a X to a U? Sounds like an easy fix with the blue painter's tape.

It could have been worse... He could have had a faster time than all the real STX guys and gals. Could you imagine?

Seriously though, I agree, it's always important to be properly classed.

he and i had a couple of conversations on this...i think that his frustration came from being told ahead of time he was STX, then having magnetics that said STX, but then having people like me tell him we *think* he should be STU. Since we didn't have a rule book at the bus, we couldn't tell him for sure.

He has a valid position...who do you believe, the ex autox vp or the dufass at the bus that tells you he ain't sure. i think he was into his 2nd run when keith q. called from the bus that it should be an stu car. he asked if he should change it, so i told him to continue running what he was running, and it would probably be changed in the computer.

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Here's the full story. He came over to my house last week and was talking about the event and that he was going to run in ESP. That threw up a red flag, because I thought they were in BSP. He found a reference on this page that lists the EVO 8 in ESP http://moutons.org/sccasolo/Lists/2006/stprepm.html .

He had just paid to have "ESP" printed so he could run that on his car, then I told him that it goes to BSP and the he would be better served to run in one of the street tire classes. It looked like the car fit the rules for STX exactly. Which is obviously wrong if you look at the exclusion list, which I didn't do. So, he purchased another set of class letters for "STX".

My guess is that is why he was upset. Not that it is a valid excuse.

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Oh yeah, he did call me back and I suggested that he listen to the STi guys because they understand those classes better.

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I wish Jerry Mouton would take that mis-information OFF the intarweb

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STF 9

Why do we even link to this site from the THSCC site? We should link to the SCCA site and not some second-hand, incorrect, problem causing site. We bring these issues upon ourselves.

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Jim Pastorius
2008 Silverado VortecMax
1992 Camaro CMC#92
2002 BMW R1150R

2009 3rd Place CMC Mid-Atlantic Championship
2009 CMC Hyperfest Winner

Was this his first time with the car, or was he a 'true' novice?

I am glad to see him there, but if he doesn't know his class (which is available once scca.com comes back up), then one of the Novice Mentors could have helped him.

I would have quickly told him he was STU. I know that it IS frustrating, but the information IS out there, and I, myself, have had to print up multiple mags for STX, STU, SO4, NO4, LAD.... so I understand that. However, IFF I don't have the right *cool looking* stuff, I WILL have paper on the side of my car and do it right the NEXT time.

I look forward to seeing him out there in the future, and IFF he is a NOV, tell him we will help him out with Nov Instructing.

- dow

I believe this was his first time autocrossing this car. I don't think he is a true novice, as he claims to have ran quite a few autocrosses way back before my time on this planet.

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Lighten up, Francis.

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Jim Pastorius
2008 Silverado VortecMax
1992 Camaro CMC#92
2002 BMW R1150R

2009 3rd Place CMC Mid-Atlantic Championship
2009 CMC Hyperfest Winner