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 Post subject: Test and Tune: Novice Entries in the Entry List
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:41 pm 
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I was just noticing that there was a NOV entry and some new name in the TnT event signup. Are the 'general rules' (or what are the rules) for pre-qualifications to attend the Test and Tune?

I ask as there is nothing listed here:

http://thscc.com/autocross/events/2006/ ... 6info.html

Which is where we should say "Hey, you need to have been a member for X time, and done X events with us. Else, you are eligible for the Novice School in March'.

Just wondering if that applied this year.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:50 pm 
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I noticed that the entry limit was set at 120... isn't that a little high for a test & tune? :(

If the purpose is for everybody to just get a few runs to get back in practice, and not to actually do any tuning & testing, then never mind.

I'd like to play with my front bar and this fancy DCCD thingie...


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The last time I saw it posted was when Mike addressed it for the 04 season. But that seems to be the running rule. Just isn't posted on the registration page.

No Novices, minimum of 5 events experience, entry limit 80. That is what we used for 04 and 05. But things change...


See this:

http://www.thsccforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=813

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Glad I'll be in Ft. Myers. I may get more runs on the Friday practice course than most at the THSCC T&T ;) - AB

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 Post subject: Re: Test and Tune: Novice Entries in the Entry List
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Brian Herring wrote:
I was just noticing that there was a NOV entry and some new name in the TnT event signup. Are the 'general rules' (or what are the rules) for pre-qualifications to attend the Test and Tune?

I ask as there is nothing listed here:

http://thscc.com/autocross/events/2006/ ... 6info.html

Which is where we should say "Hey, you need to have been a member for X time, and done X events with us. Else, you are eligible for the Novice School in March'.

Just wondering if that applied this year.

Thanks!

- dow


Under futher investigation:

THE Registration List wrote:
NOV 89 (AS) Terry Hulihan black 2006 subaru sti


Its seems to be one your boyz.... :roll:

Seriously, we are at 40 right now lets worry about it when we have more.

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Aaron Buckley wrote:
Glad I'll be in Ft. Myers. I may get more runs on the Friday practice course than most at the THSCC T&T ;) - AB


You know the T&T is the weekend *after* Ft. Myers, right? You *could* do both.


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Brian Herring wrote:
I was just noticing that there was a NOV entry and some new name in the TnT event signup. Are the 'general rules' (or what are the rules) for pre-qualifications to attend the Test and Tune?

I ask as there is nothing listed here:

http://thscc.com/autocross/events/2006/ ... 6info.html

Which is where we should say "Hey, you need to have been a member for X time, and done X events with us. Else, you are eligible for the Novice School in March'.

Kevin Allen wrote:
I noticed that the entry limit was set at 120... isn't that a little high for a test & tune? :(

These things are typically handled when the event chairs or autoX VPs provide the webmasters with the info... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Test and Tune: Novice Entries in the Entry List
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Brian Herring wrote:
I was just noticing that there was a NOV entry and some new name in the TnT event signup. Are the 'general rules' (or what are the rules) for pre-qualifications to attend the Test and Tune?

I ask as there is nothing listed here:

http://thscc.com/autocross/events/2006/ ... 6info.html

Which is where we should say "Hey, you need to have been a member for X time, and done X events with us. Else, you are eligible for the Novice School in March'.

Just wondering if that applied this year.

Thanks!

- dow


Under futher investigation:

THE Registration List wrote:
NOV 89 (AS) Terry Hulihan black 2006 subaru sti


Its seems to be one your boyz.... :roll:

Seriously, we are at 40 right now lets worry about it when we have more.


I dont know the guy, unfortunately. :(

- dow


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the guy with the STi is also signed up for the novice school. so are you experienced enough to test & tune, or are you a novice? make up your mind, feller...

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Kevin Allen wrote:
the guy with the STi is also signed up for the novice school. so are you experienced enough to test & tune, or are you a novice? make up your mind, feller...

:lol:


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Kevin Allen wrote:
the guy with the STi is also signed up for the novice school. so are you experienced enough to test & tune, or are you a novice? make up your mind, feller...

:lol:


It could well be that he's in that middle ground where he has enough experience to be able to tune the car somewhat, while still being new enough to benefit greatly from the novice school. At the very least, it'd be easy enough to set up base tire pressures and so on, and a good semi-novice can probably tell the difference between 2lb increments (or less) and play with them to set the balance.

One big thing I intend to get out of the Test and Tune is making sure I have all my ducks in a row in terms of bringing the right tools and gear, and seeing how long set-up and on-site wheel changing really takes. I don't even plan to put the R-comps on the car until I've played with the new brake pads and locked up the 460-treadwear street tyres a few times. Doesn't take much experience to do that.

I also seriously need to work on getting the feel of the car on the up-side of the traction curve rather than flirting with the down-side. Again, something a good newcomer could probably do and benefit from.

Heck, I'd probably benefit greatly from the novice school too, but it seems kind of unethical for me to sign up given I've run more than a few autocrosses. :wink:

If I was forced to put out an opinion (not that mine matters, of course), I would say that I don't care if the person does run NOV, as long as they are familiar enough with the event procedures to slip in smoothly without needing any guidance. That's the main point, surely? That the event runs smoothly with everyone knowing what they're supposed to be doing.

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arent noobs supposed to "adjust the nut behind the wheel" ?

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DanDurusky wrote:
arent noobs supposed to "adjust the nut behind the wheel" ?

:wink:


IIRC, the majority of NOV would have little to NO experience with autoXes, and also the familiarity with the club. IFF we had bunches of NOVs running around, it makes it hard for a TnT day to work in it's fluid nature without having to worry about someone 'lost' accidentally finding their way on the slalom course/skid pad/drift area.

TnT == People who need some time to fine tune their cars to prepare for the season
NOV School == People who need some time to fine tune themselves for the season

(i.e. What Dan said)

Of course, if you need both, just be an instructor at the NOV school :D

Of course, that is just my interpretation, but it should be stated in the signup area for each event so the requirements are cut and dry.

- dow

Ps. Yes, I will do the writeup if you want (with direction).


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