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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:23 pm 
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JamesFeinberg wrote:
Sorry Martyn, but I'd have to disagree with you on this one. While 250GP bikes (and most bikes for that matter) are capable of unreal acceleration, their ultimate cornering ability is actually somewhat limited due to the *tiny* contact patch of their tires. Any decent racing car along with very good street cars on sticky rubber can out-corner any bike simply due to the greater overall surface area to weight ratio.


and, of course, downforce. You are absolutely correct. The point I was making was based not on absolute numbers but on power to grip ratio, which in the case of a 250GP bike is a ton more grip than power. I'm sorry if I appeared to imply that a bike would out-corner a car. If nothing else, there's the sheer limitation of lean angle -- even though the British club racers on the 125GP bikes wear elbow pucks, they still can only lean so far.


BTW (and on a tangent), a pure built-for-race bike is a whole different world from a production-based machine. The session before I was on the 250GP I was on an R6, which I thought was pretty darned amazing at the time. The 250GP made the R6 feel like a sloppy truck (albeit a powerful sloppy truck), kind of like the difference between a Formula Ford and and a Ford Falcon.

And following on from that, this is all just nit-picking and yes, "the good line" is perfectly adequate for the Novice School. :) Sorry to get so far off topic and derail the thread. :oops:

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sorry for getting off topic :roll: , but.. we need more mentors!

35 novices this time! yikes. i think i will limit mentoring to novices who are 1st time only. so if you had a mentor last time thats it.

being a mentor is a good way to help people, the club, and yourself! thats right, you'll likely end up w/ a few extra looks at the course by being a mentor. so lets get on it!

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DanDurusky wrote:
sorry for getting off topic :roll: , but.. we need more mentors!

35 novices this time! yikes. i think i will limit mentoring to novices who are 1st time only. so if you had a mentor last time thats it.

being a mentor is a good way to help people, the club, and yourself! thats right, you'll likely end up w/ a few extra looks at the course by being a mentor. so lets get on it!

:D


As stated, I will be there, not running, but there to help you mentor, Dan. That means, put me in whatever group you like :)

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ok great. there is an STI noob just for you!

we're going to match up novices to mentors right after the novice meeting so please be around then


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I will help once again. Hopefully there will be only one novice to a mentor this time. It kept me busy in the morning session while I was running and tuning my own car along with helping out.

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DanDurusky wrote:
sorry for getting off topic :roll: , but.. we need more mentors!

35 novices this time! yikes. i think i will limit mentoring to novices who are 1st time only. so if you had a mentor last time thats it.

being a mentor is a good way to help people, the club, and yourself! thats right, you'll likely end up w/ a few extra looks at the course by being a mentor. so lets get on it!

:D


I'm in. There are a few new names with kick-ass cars at this event so it's always fun riding in a new type of car.

Personally, I think the benefit of riding along with noobs is almost an unfair advantage, but it's for a good cause. :wink:


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