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 Post subject: tires didn't win at least once
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:54 pm 
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Wes Eargle wrote:
Heh, I have 1st place Novice wood that I won using Firestone all season radials. At this level, Robert Duvall's quote in Days of Thunder, "Tires is what wins races" is wrong.

:!: Aha!

That's very good to know - thank you! :D

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:25 pm 
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Kathleen,
I don't know this to be a fact in everyones case but for me the most improvement in my driving was from practice practice practice not from tires tires tires. you've been to two autoxs and have appeared to halved the time between you and first place. Did you run on the same tires??? If you did, then your skill level has doubled... Tires wont do that for you. Don't out think yourself, listen then practice practice practice.

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 Post subject: Re: lots to consider
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:13 pm 
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KathleenIde wrote:
When I try to decide whether or not to focus on competition in my first year, the main question is: I only get one chance at the Novice trophy - will it be the best chance I ever get to win any trophy?

You sound like a really competitive person, Kit. But again, I urge you to try to forget about the whole trophy thing. Particularly a trophy in Novice, if it's going to compell you to buy R-compound tires right away which, as I stated earlier, I believe will make your learning curve more difficult.

I should also mention that, in addition to R-compound tires being less forgiving, they are also expensive and you can ruin one or more in a single run if you have a bad spin.

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I might or might not ever achieve enough skill to run with the leaders, and I might or might not improve faster than average. If I improve faster than average, but never get really good, Novice might be the best, and last, chance I ever have.

Let's say you run in Novice this year and do well, then in the years that follow you never manage to trophy. What would that mean to you? Would you prize that Novice trophy from your first season, reminiscing about it for years, or would you discount it, thinking that maybe you only did well because it was a weak batch of NOVs that year? On the other hand, what if you run in Novice and do not do particularly well? If your view is that you'd have blown your "best, and last, chance", what incentive could you possibly have to continue?

In all cases, my conclusion would be the same: The Novice trophy is meaningless. We didn't even have such a thing until last year, and frankly I'd be just as happy to see it go away again. All that matters is how you are doing now compared to how you have been doing lately.

IMO, you should have two goals for the 2006 season:
  1. Have fun.
  2. Learn.
If you're not having fun, there's really no point in continuing the activity (you're sure not getting paid for it!). And focusing on winning trophies, or even "doing well", is going to crush your fun factor if you don't meet your high expectations.

There are all kinds of things that make autocross fun- from the thrill of handling a car at the edge of control, to the mental challenge, to the people. If you're not getting joy from these things, any trophy you may win is going to be pretty hollow.

Similarly, if you're not learning, that's going to impact your fun eventually, as you'll notice that you're not keeping up with your former peers.

Consider your first season or two as an investment. It will pay off down the road if you persevere, but it's unwise to sacrifice long-term benefits in pursuit of short-term gains.

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:44 pm 
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Novice class will NOT be the same as 2005 but it will not be the same as 2004 either.

Stay tuned... :twisted:

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What Carl said - and be sure to make it to the novice school in March. We gonna learn you somethin. 8)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:42 pm 
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And, if I may make a shameless plug....let's not forget the Chick School in May (or whenever it ends up scheduled!!) Fantastic learning opportunity!!
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 Post subject: school
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:28 pm 
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Trust me, I'd be going to all the schools whether I needed them or not. :lol: You're talking to the person who took the Motorcycle Safety Federation's "Basic" class over again, just for the fun of it, after having passed the "Advanced" class with flying colors.

I should have mentioned in my previous posts that Having Fun is a given. Of course that's the #1 reason I'm there in the first place, and I'm not the type to forget it.

Thank you all very much for your advice!

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