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spoken like a married man. Al Bundy for President.

Fixed that for you.

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Rich
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I honestly think that is a great idea. The people who just got one being NOVICES know EXACTLY what they did and did not like about their NOVICE year, and can relate well to the new NOVICES. Generally, I think that having them help co-chair the event is a superb idea.

This would give us a chance to bring new blood into the event setup staff as well

I think that anyone who has autoXed more than 3 events and has a clue can give useful information to ANY NOVICE. Just remember your first few, and tell them what they really need to do:

1. Try
2. Have fun
3. Listen

I think the NOVICES should have to wear ORANGE shirts so we know who they are No escaping then

- dow

i came into this at the tender age of 45. so my patience quotient may not be as high as it could be. there is a great deal of participation required from an autoXer other than show up & drive. my first ever work session was heat 3.5 thru heat 4. i shagged cones for a long time that day. secondly, i had no idea what autoX was other than cars going fast while timed. i guess, Jim, i had issues with not knowing what was next in my new hobby. while the school was very driving technique oriented i feel it lacked some "book learnin". i guess the question is do we concentrate on autoX technique or do we teach autoX the sport/hobby. maybe a 70/30 split in the subject matter.

an afterthought: hand holding during the school might eliminate the need during the season. i was probably one of maybe 5 people out of the 50 with zero experience so i may not be the best example of who the school is trying to reach. the apprehension i felt a year ago seems almost foolish today. steve

I don't see no rings on deez fingaz.

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yes, but Wes, the routine doesn't change it just gets less frequent.

Haven't gotten all of the marbles out of the jar yet?

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There are a lot of good ideas and feedback that we have seen. As Novice Coordinators we got quite a bit from the Novices. It ranges anywhere from hand holding and providing a Novice with a personal instructor at the gate. To trying to teach them everything during the morning meeting. Then with the school there were many suggestions. Then more ideas on improving the Mentor program.

All of this is all well and good. But it all needs to be rolled up into 1 big wish list. Then that needs to be tailored down to what can realistically be done in 06.

There are limited resources to accomplish all these ideas. Not everyone wants to be an instructor/mentor/guide or whatever. We (Rob and I) tried to start the Mentor program in a low key way so as not to aggravate everyone. You have many people who come out that want to just play and have fun. Work their specific shift and that is it.

As has been noted. Tarheels does do a Novice School and Intermediate School. If you were to run with most any other club and you wanted a school. You would be pointed to the Evo website and told to sign up and have fun. Some of those clubs don't have Novice Coordinators at all. You register and get pointed to where tech, pit, grid, and work sign up is. That's it. Want to know more. Run around and ask people. Good luck. Don't screw up...

I'd just like to say a Big Thanks to the people who have helped Rob and I in various ways this year. Having 2 Novice Coordinators is about all the club can afford resource wise. We depended on a bunch of people to help us with different areas. Thanks! You know who you are.

Graham

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Steve - what were you doing when you were not driving during the school? You were working the course, right. If I remember, we were running a timer on one course and had radios out there. I believe we covered cone rules, paying attention and other aspects to working the course. I know when I spoke to the novices, I stressed course working as being one of the important aspects of AX. More in a sense as a consideration to the other competitors....resetting the course, calling in cones, etc.

Now that you are experienced, you know better than to run right up when they start calling for workers

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Jim Pastorius
2008 Silverado VortecMax
1992 Camaro CMC#92
2002 BMW R1150R

2009 3rd Place CMC Mid-Atlantic Championship
2009 CMC Hyperfest Winner

Geez...Brian and I agree on something.

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Jim Pastorius
2008 Silverado VortecMax
1992 Camaro CMC#92
2002 BMW R1150R

2009 3rd Place CMC Mid-Atlantic Championship
2009 CMC Hyperfest Winner

Jim, my reccollection on the timed course was no my group did not work the course. we all stood near the bus and watched the times. i was not in the group you instructed. i remember nothing of the long course probably due to the stress of arriving late. (that and CRS)

i don't think my group was on the long course very long but i can't remember why. i suppose i am overthinking the the whole situation. i would like to see something to reduce the inherent confusion of being a first or second time autoXer just not sure what or how.

not the answer you were looking for i know. especially considering how distasteful you find those that bitch without offering a solution. but i will continue to ponder on it. steve

That looks like DIBs on NOVICE Event co-chair for next year to me!!

I will help as well. I will help on anything

- dow

Here, here. One of the Nov Coord positions for next year is open. See your Autox VP and sign up. Operators are waiting. Call now

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Which one of you gentlemen is stepping down? I don't mind helping as I should have been more helpful this year

- dow

You did propose ideas that you felt would aid novices. The next step is t implement tose ideas. And only can do that. I would be more than willing to help you out.

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Jim Pastorius
2008 Silverado VortecMax
1992 Camaro CMC#92
2002 BMW R1150R

2009 3rd Place CMC Mid-Atlantic Championship
2009 CMC Hyperfest Winner