3/20/05 Results are up!

Carl Fisher · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:37 am

http://thscc.com/autocross/events/index.html

Brian Herring · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:15 am

Carl Fisher wrote:

http://thscc.com/autocross/events/index.html

Something is wrong with your overall indexed results... it looks like , once again, the club has something out for the STi drivers:

117 STU 22 Marcus McRae 2004 Subaru STi 41.913 *8.180 342.848 299.584 309.720
118 STU 38 Brian Herring 2005 Subaru WRX STi 42.018 *8.180 343.707 0.859 310.579
119 STU 38 Stacy Herring 2005 Subaru WRX STi 47.967 *8.180 392.370 48.663 359.24

I think somone who sets the overall fastest RAW time for Touring should not be 2 from last.

Unless we have to overcome an index of "8.180".

So, all you guys think STis are THAT fast that we have to have an index 8 times greater than an AMod car?

At least you are on the right track

Thanks.

- brian

Scott Johnson · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:23 am

Yup, definately an error there.

Fortunately they were right at the trophy presentation.

We'll get it fixed and updated ASAP.

Scott

Jason Mauldin · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:27 am

Brian Herring wrote:

Unless we have to overcome an index of "8.180".

So, all you guys think STis are THAT fast that we have to have an index 8 times greater than an AMod car?

We thought it was a nice way to slow you guys down. Better then the alternative of letting air out of your tires. :wink:

Rick Butters · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:47 am

Another minor (less drastic than a PAX of 8.18) mistake is that the BS bump (Max Koff) is shown with the AS PAX index, rather than the BS index.

Scott Johnson · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:16 am

Ain't new software great?

Keep pointing this stuff out, the sooner we catch the bugs, the sooner we can squash them.

Scott

Chris Landi · **Joined:** Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:31 pm **Posts:** 579

Alright, noob question... My highlighted best time is 44.570. My fastest time was 43.565 with a cone. Coned runs don't count towards your fastest time?

Brian Herring · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:22 am

Chris Landi wrote:

Alright, noob question... My highlighted best time is 44.570. My fastest time was 43.565 with a cone. Coned runs don't count towards your fastest time?

N00b Answer -- with a cone, your time would be 43.565 + 2 seconds. That means your NEW time is 45.565. 45.565 > 44.570. Therefore, the 44.570 is your 'highlighted best run'.

Confused me at first too. Kinda erks you knowing that you were ALMOST 2 seconds faster, but that cones start being more of a problem the faster/more competitive you get.

Hey, at least it shows your RAW time before the cone so you know how many cones you hit

- brian

Ps. Ack, Kevin Allen finished 45th PAXed??? Has the Top Gun reign ended?!?!!? IS THERE A NEW SHERRIF IN TOWN?!?! Will we see Kevin return all his parts to the 2.5RS?!?!?!

As the Subaru turns....

Chris Landi · **Joined:** Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:31 pm **Posts:** 579

I thought that the time reflected a cone already, and the +1 was to let you know you had a penalty in there?

EDIT: Yeah, I see it.. the time is logged automatically and the +1 has to be added in.

Brian Herring · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:26 am

Chris Landi wrote:

I thought that the time reflected a cone already, and the +1 was to let you know you had a penalty in there?

Ah... nope. That is your RAW time, with the cone on the side. If that had NOT added the cone in there, you would have been running faster than Marcus and I with a 41.565. I know I was pushing like crap with a 42.0xx and that a 41.5x IS possible in an STi yesterday.... but you woulda been my new hero if you woulda ran that

Maybe you are that fast!!!

That is just how I saw it. Anyway....

- brian

EDIT: I suppose after getting use to the timing and scoring system LAST year would lead you to believe that, and I can totally understand that misconception with the times. However, if you HAD run that time, I think some AS guys would be asking about your grounding mods (which have been removed

)and protesting your muffler bearings

Carl Fisher · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:29 am

Chris Landi wrote:

I thought that the time reflected a cone already, and the +1 was to let you know you had a penalty in there?

The old software would include the penalty in the time (and would put the cone count in parentheses, so you could see the cone count for every run). The new software shows the raw time, then adds "+1" (or whatever) as needed. Same exact information, just a different way of looking at it.

And just to anticipate the possible next question, no we can't change it to make it work "the old way".

Brian Herring · **Posted:** Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:32 am

Carl Fisher wrote:

Chris Landi wrote:

I thought that the time reflected a cone already, and the +1 was to let you know you had a penalty in there?

The old software would include the penalty in the time (and would put the cone count in parentheses, so you could see the cone count for every run). The new software shows the raw time, then adds "+1" (or whatever) as needed. Same exact information, just a different way of looking at it.

And just to anticipate the possible next question, no we can't change it to make it work "the old way".

HEY HEY HEY!!!! That is a question for the timing and scoring guys to answer! Not the webmaster!!!

- brian

Chris Landi · **Joined:** Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:31 pm **Posts:** 579

Carl,

Thanks for clarifying this.

Chris

Wes Eargle · **Joined:** Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:47 am **Posts:** 3683

Holy crap, the only class other than X that had the top 4 drivers within 0.700 seconds of each other was ES?

This is gonna be fun! :twisted:

Les Davis · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:04 pm **Posts:** 2059

As for the STU PAX list screw up, looks like a simple decimal missplacement since STU PAX is supposed to be 0.818, instead its 8.180. Only off by a small factor of 10, STIs are so good you should be able to overcome that right?

This is probably easily fixed in the software, I just didn't catch it when I was printing the results. Or then again, since correcting the error will move both of you in front of me on the PAX list, maybe it wasn't an accident.... :lol:

BTW, are we gonna have a "top ten raw" posted like we used to?

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