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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:07 pm 
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Brian, keep in mind that the best way to get respect is to volunteer. Regardless of driving ability, people who help out gain a lot of respect from other members.

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Nah, I'd like him better if he had a Miata.






:) j/k :)

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Brian Herring wrote:

Ps. If I had a 'miatar' instead of an STi, I think people would like me more ;)


Doubt it

No the comments given, and mine in particular, are directly on point. These type of posts are very common from you and each time the reponses have been the same. Get involved or bring them up in person, which kind of forces the whole get involved thing.

There are a lot of jokes that go on here, and if you are easily offended then yes you need tougher skin. But along those line there are also a lot of comments made here, by many people, that would not be said to someones face or during the actual moment. And that is just dumb.

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I guess I will just stop posting my opinions and just be a silent member who just comes to events then.



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Anyway.... enough of this conversation for me

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Brian seems to be very enthusiastic an want to help out the club when he can, not everyone can take vacation to days to do events or spend whole weekends at events I think some of you should be a little more understanding that not everyone can or has the time to give all to the club, and jumping on because he cannot is a quick way to dampen someones enthusiasm.


Can somebody interpret this for me? Too many misspeeelings & run-on sentence structure for me... :wink: (just giving you crap, David!)

Hey, let's all jump on David now!!! :twisted:


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Brian - FWIW, my comments were not directed at you. I'm actually targeting the wider audience of current and/or future "suggestion makers", trying to put a few ideas in people's heads.

No use in wasting my time on just one person. So don't take my comments personally.

PS - Your situation reminds me a lot of one that happened a few years ago with another person. All of his suggestions came by email, and all the officers immediately hated him. Took a few months for him to dig himself out of that hole. Now, a few years later, we all get along great.

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MikeWhitney wrote:
Brian - FWIW, my comments were not directed at you. I'm actually targeting the wider audience of current and/or future "suggestion makers", trying to put a few ideas in people's heads.

No use in wasting my time on just one person. So don't take my comments personally.

PS - Your situation reminds me a lot of one that happened a few years ago with another person. All of his suggestions came by email, and all the officers immediately hated him. Took a few months for him to dig himself out of that hole. Now, a few years later, we all get along great.


Awesome. So now I am hated.

Good to know.

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Brian Herring wrote:
MikeWhitney wrote:
Brian - FWIW, my comments were not directed at you. I'm actually targeting the wider audience of current and/or future "suggestion makers", trying to put a few ideas in people's heads.

No use in wasting my time on just one person. So don't take my comments personally.

PS - Your situation reminds me a lot of one that happened a few years ago with another person. All of his suggestions came by email, and all the officers immediately hated him. Took a few months for him to dig himself out of that hole. Now, a few years later, we all get along great.


Awesome. So now I am hated.

Good to know.

:silence:

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WTF? Reading is fundamental, dude.

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Can somebody interpret this for me? Too many misspeeelings & run-on sentence structure for me... :wink: (just giving you crap, David!)

Hey, let's all jump on David now!!! :twisted:



Don't make me get Vitacco to send you an e-mail :) heheh

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Brian Herring wrote:
Awesome. So now I am hated.

Good to know.

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Brian, Really mike was just using that as an example I don't think any one hates you... relax really....

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Brian Herring wrote:
Awesome. So now I am hated.

Good to know.

:silence:

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Brian Herring wrote:
MikeWhitney wrote:
Brian - FWIW, my comments were not directed at you. I'm actually targeting the wider audience of current and/or future "suggestion makers", trying to put a few ideas in people's heads.

No use in wasting my time on just one person. So don't take my comments personally.

PS - Your situation reminds me a lot of one that happened a few years ago with another person. All of his suggestions came by email, and all the officers immediately hated him. Took a few months for him to dig himself out of that hole. Now, a few years later, we all get along great.


Awesome. So now I am hated.





Good to know.

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Brian, you are not hated. What you are seeing (reading) is just the usual use of any forum to express their thoughts.

What does make a lot of club members who put a lot of extra time into the club a bit upset is people who pay their $30 do their runs, leave, and then post a bunch of suggestions on how to make it better. It is not that we don't necessarily welcome.....er appreciate......uh tolerate new ideas, it is just that we prefer the new ideas to come with the offer of "And I will help make it so" If you choose to other things with your spare time other than help THSCC in some capacity that is your right, you just have to expect that your suggestions will not be given the weight of others.

For my part, I thought most of the comments that you made were OK, you still have a right to express your opinion, no matter how stupid it is :wink: (I can't remember if you posted something real inflammatory in the middle as I am too lazy to read thru them again. )

As several of the people have said, if you can't create more time in your schedule, do some of the things they were talking about in this post during the event.

Remember take the constructive stuff for what it is, everything else is mostly just people having fun :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:35 pm 
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MikeWhitney wrote:
Your situation reminds me a lot of one that happened a few years ago with another person. All of his suggestions came by email, and all the officers immediately hated him. Took a few months for him to dig himself out of that hole. Now, a few years later, we all get along great.


Not sure if Mike is talking about me or not, but I guess I would fit the description. I might even be the exact person Mike is thinking about.

A few years back, I bitched up and down about how the registration was run was not to my liking. Wasn't even a freaking member at the time. :roll: Needless to say, I was dead wrong and the biggest mistake I had made was jumping in and assuming that I knew better without any real experience. I also had no respect for the hard work that was put in to make it all happen.

I totally understand the issue of trying to find the time to "help out" with the club. Some people no matter how busy they are with work or a home life somehow find the time. Others just can't make that same level of commitment. That is a personal decision and I don't think anyone is right or wrong on this. I think the problem is that if you can't step up (and I am not saying I have), you just have to have a very thick skin if you start to publicly (such as via the forum) provide critisims. Even if it is intended to be constructive.

I think that those 20% that do 80% of the work tend to group people into two classes. Those that help and those that pay their yearly dues and show up for events. If you fall into the second group (which I can at times) you need to be VERY careful (rightly so) about how you provide feedback. Especially if those on the receiving end are people who are sacrificing more than you to make all of this happen.

These days I try to find the best way I can help within the amount of time my life allows and otherwise I try to stay out of people's way and give them the benefit of the doubt about how they are doing things. If I have some feedback, I try to provide data points (i.e I didn't hear but one of my times on the radio), but I also try to go out of my way to explain I am happy to get something on the radio because of someone elses hard work we now HAVE a radio. Basically I am not bringing food to the table, so I am happy with whatever I am served.

Oh, now, lets all get happy! :P What are we at now. Six pages of posts for the first event? We haven't even talked about cheater tires, PAX or any of the other usual suspects. ;)

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Richard Casto wrote:

Oh, now, lets all get happy! :P What are we at now. Six pages of posts for the first event? We haven't even talked about cheater tires, PAX or any of the other usual suspects. ;)


Graham is on vacation, so the cheater tire thread will start next event after he brings his cheater car to it :lol:


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Richard Casto wrote:

Oh, now, lets all get happy! :P What are we at now. Six pages of posts for the first event? We haven't even talked about cheater tires, PAX or any of the other usual suspects. ;)


Graham is on vacation, so the cheater tire thread will start next event after he brings his cheater car to it :lol:


Alright, I gotta ask this. What exactly are cheater tires? It was my understanding that you could run race tires in stock classes. Is it an old school argument that stock = stock parts only? Or am I missing something?
How about race fuel...is that OK? :)

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Richard Casto wrote:
Oh, now, lets all get happy! :P What are we at now. Six pages of posts for the first event? We haven't even talked about cheater tires, PAX or any of the other usual suspects. ;)


You forgot about banning TIRE class :deadhorse:

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