2012 Pax Index

Gwen Habenicht · **Posted:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:12 am

Here it is, all you haters... :wink:

http://home.comcast.net/~paxrtp/rtp2012.html

jeremy gast · **Posted:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:14 am

Csp picked up .001 :sing:

pax still sucks. :soap:

wonder what it would take to go back to ES

Gwen Habenicht · **Posted:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:34 am

HS took a hit, but wasn't as bad as I thought it might be. We did get hit harder than a lot of other classes though. Not a problem in Tour, but definitely a hit for Pro. My biggest goals for 2012 are in Pro, so that's a bit of a buzz kill.

Matt McGrain · **Posted:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:38 am

Oh goodie gumdrops! Haven't looked yet, but my I'm guessing BS, DS, and maybe HS go up and AS and GS go down a touch... Not sure about others.

Gwen Habenicht · **Posted:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:42 am

Matt McGrain wrote:

Oh goodie gumdrops! Haven't looked yet, but my I'm guessing BS, DS, and maybe HS go up and AS and GS go down a touch... Not sure about others.

You'd be wrong about GS, but only by .005.

Steven Carter · **Posted:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:48 am

The question now is who will pay big $ to go real slow in STF?

Matt McGrain · **Posted:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:04 pm

It's tough to say if a class goes up or down based on just the factor of course. What's really interesting to see is when the 'number crunchers' on the SCCA forums figure out the relative change versus the years before. My lazy way of doing it is (which is probably not indicative at all :roll:

) to look at the stock class above and below GS on a 60 second course, DS & HS.

Last year DS would have to be .59 quicker and HS could be +1.36.

In '12 it'll be .512 and 1.12 which tells me HS may have gotten pulled a little closer and DS stayed about the same maybe? I did BStock for the heck of it, and can go even SLOWER by about a tenth to continue crushing GS in those beautiful S2k's. :lol:

Very cool graph from the rrauto-x forum: http://roadraceautox.com/showthread.php?t=37204

JohnByers · **Posted:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:33 pm

Pax sux...... :thumbsup:

RobLupella · **Posted:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:18 pm

jeremy gast wrote:

Csp picked up .001 :sing:

pax still sucks. :soap:

wonder what it would take to go back to ES

disemboweling Frank

JamesMilko · **Posted:** Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:06 pm

RobLupella wrote:

jeremy gast wrote:

Csp picked up .001 :sing:

pax still sucks. :soap:

wonder what it would take to go back to ES

disemboweling Frank

Buying Cline's Miata.

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:11 am

Steven Carter wrote:

The question now is who will pay big $ to go real slow in STF?

Andy Hollis. He's building a Mazda 2 for the class.

DickRasmussen · **Posted:** Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:22 am

Todd Breakey wrote:

Steven Carter wrote:

The question now is who will pay big $ to go real slow in STF?

Andy Hollis. He's building a Mazda 2 for the class.

Are you sure?

He said this on 10/21 about the Mazda 2 in an SCCAforums thread:

"Having driven one on a track, they are dog-slow in acceleration. And this was a base model (lightest). The gearing is the Achilles hell. Fairly long second gear. Spreadsheet analysis shows this one to be right up there with the best in handling, due to weight, but will suffer to things like the MINI and RSX for accel. Which means a good speed maintenance car, but lacking when it comes to coming off slower turns. So a good car for this year's West course at Nats and subpar on the East.

--Andy"

Matt McGrain · **Posted:** Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:30 am

My friend just got rid of his '92 Civic with something like 250k and bought a shinny new red Mazda 2 with an autotrans. I'm not sure why anyone would want to autocross one of these things, but then again someone like Andy would probably extract more out of it that anyone else so it'll be interesting to see.

Cool points for racing such a small econobox that you'd never expect to see coming down the course though. :thumbsup:

Gwen Habenicht · **Posted:** Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:30 am

DickRasmussen wrote:

Todd Breakey wrote:

Steven Carter wrote:

The question now is who will pay big $ to go real slow in STF?

Andy Hollis. He's building a Mazda 2 for the class.

Are you sure?

He said this on 10/21 about the Mazda 2 in an SCCAforums thread:

"Having driven one on a track, they are dog-slow in acceleration. And this was a base model (lightest). The gearing is the Achilles hell. Fairly long second gear. Spreadsheet analysis shows this one to be right up there with the best in handling, due to weight, but will suffer to things like the MINI and RSX for accel. Which means a good speed maintenance car, but lacking when it comes to coming off slower turns. So a good car for this year's West course at Nats and subpar on the East.

--Andy"

Rumor has it he's already sold his autocross Honda and purchased the "2".
The soft pax will be a plus in Pro.

Todd Breakey · **Posted:** Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:29 pm

Gwen is right. He sold God's Chariot and bought the 2 a couple weeks ago. I'll find the thread when I get a moment.

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