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I threw in the towel.

So help me out, I can still change my order. The sports and HDs both have the same body length (identical to the Civic). The sport has about 22mm more extended length than the HD/Civic OE shocks. With equal length bodies and a longer extended length (though I need to check if this is to the 'seat' or the end of the shaft), this means it will have more droop travel than I currently have. On stock shocks or the Konis, I can actually lift a rear inside tire by hitting full droop. This helps with rotation as the rear outside tire is at 100% lateral weight transfer. If I got with the Bilstein Sport, I might not be able to lift the inside tire, but I would suspect it would still be very lightly loaded under turn in or trail braking so it might not matter.

I suppose, extra travel is always good, no?

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Extra droop should be good for Rallycross.

I'm going to say it. Generally more droop>less droop.

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No, you're a towel!

Why do you care if you lift the inside rear tire on a FWD car?

But to answer your question, it depends. Was your droop previously limited by the shock, by running out of spring, or by a stop/bind in the suspension?

Congrats on the switch to a superior product!

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Running out of shock travel. In a stock class FWD car with stock rear bar, being able to tripod under trail braking gets the ass end to rotate a lot better. With that said, even with more droop travel, I suppose there will be very little load on the inside tire anyway, so it's probably a moot point.

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2015 Fit

22R-EC => 4G63 => D16Y7 + D16Y8 => EJ255 + K24Z2 => K20Z3 + K24Z2 => K24Z2 + M54 => L15B

Funny that on the same day James posts this, my warranty replacement koni arrives! (just a leaking adjuster, us koni people consider that "normal").

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Does the plus or minus 1" fully extended length allowance in stock class mean the length from the lower eye to the top of the shaft?

From where the top mount sits the Bilsteins have about 24mm more droop travel, but the net damper length is about the same as stock since the OE damper has a TON of thread on the top of the shaft (very unnecessary).

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2015 Fit

22R-EC => 4G63 => D16Y7 + D16Y8 => EJ255 + K24Z2 => K20Z3 + K24Z2 => K24Z2 + M54 => L15B

After a couple beers on vacation, you decide to post on a thread about shock absorber droop travel? Really?

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James' geek, runs deep.

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Ya Brice just wait till after his first six pack see what kind of threads he starts then

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Screw you guys!

My wife has obviously been out shopping way too long and I'm getting bored .

EDIT: Ok I won't lie, I just finished reading Chuck Edmonson's "Fast Car Physics" and I've been thinking about how I want to get my Bilsteins revalved . The beers have probably clouded my judgment about how much rebound damping I can put up with in a daily driven car .

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2015 Fit

22R-EC => 4G63 => D16Y7 + D16Y8 => EJ255 + K24Z2 => K20Z3 + K24Z2 => K24Z2 + M54 => L15B

You can take a fun run in my un-blown, Bilstein-mounted WRX if you want to see about that... rebound damping is pretty strong with the GTWorx valving, especially appreciable on the stock springs...

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A shedload of rebound damping can really ruin a DD's ride quality. Like, seriously ruin it.

Signed, the guy who's S2000 lives in the garage most of the time

The thing is, I average 750miles or less a month (commute is 5 miles round trip). My commute (other than my neighborhood) is on perfect asphalt. The only major driving the car will see is to Danville, Sanford, or NCCAR . For the last 2 months I ran my rear koni's at half stiff and it wasn't terrible and that is about double the rebound damping of the stock rear shocks. I have a FvV curve of the rear Koni's at full soft and full hard is supposed to be 100% (twice as) stiffer than on full soft. I'm thinking of going for 75% of that range (ie the full soft curve times 1.75) and go with that on the Bilsteins. The only thing though is that might be unnecessary as the monotube, high gas pressure Bilsteins can run more bump damping than the twin tubes and still achieve similar results on turn in. However, people sitting in the rear of the car (which is very rare) might not be in love with the damping .

I'm seeing what Shaikh at FCM thinks .

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Fortunately, you don't have to sit back there.

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