$Hoosier A6's - ouch!

JamesShort · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:52 pm

JamesFeinberg wrote:

David Spratte wrote:

JamesFeinberg wrote:

I don't see the big deal. :whoknows:

Regardless, after the NCAC, I'm switching to running TIR class for all local events. Who's with me?

Jim

Hell yeah. Unless there's a TIR class for the NCAC.

Nah, running TIR at a championship event is just silly. :wink:

Steven Carter wrote:

X-TIR, right?

Um, no. That's silly too. Unless they let me run ST-X-TIR with a Civic. Or if they let me run my road race ITR Integra in TIR: ITR-X-TIR?

See, it just gets too complicated. And silly. Plain 'ole DS-TIR it will be. From what I've heard, there are a lot of people fed up with the current tire situation in the auto-x world. Besides myself, I know of *many* others that will be making the same move for local events. It should be fun!

Jim

Just make sure you beat the blue WRX, the Silver MCS or the silver s2000......remember the guy in the silver WRX brought Jinx those tires for you

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Gwen Habenicht · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:10 pm

JamesShort wrote:

JamesFeinberg wrote:

David Spratte wrote:

JamesFeinberg wrote:

I don't see the big deal. :whoknows:

Regardless, after the NCAC, I'm switching to running TIR class for all local events. Who's with me?

Jim

Hell yeah. Unless there's a TIR class for the NCAC.

Nah, running TIR at a championship event is just silly. :wink:

Steven Carter wrote:

X-TIR, right?

Um, no. That's silly too. Unless they let me run ST-X-TIR with a Civic. Or if they let me run my road race ITR Integra in TIR: ITR-X-TIR?

See, it just gets too complicated. And silly. Plain 'ole DS-TIR it will be. From what I've heard, there are a lot of people fed up with the current tire situation in the auto-x world. Besides myself, I know of *many* others that will be making the same move for local events. It should be fun!

Jim

Just make sure you beat the blue WRX, the Silver MCS or the silver s2000......remember the guy in the silver WRX brought Jinx those tires for you

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Count us in too. My tire budget is nil. After NCAC my 710's will be shot. TIR for me too. :lol:

David Spratte · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:36 pm

I'm wondering what the best tire is for TIR. . .
Star Specs?

Or maybe we could have an Old TIR Class (OTIR) for people who want to run Azenis.

Steven Carter · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:47 pm

Steven Carter wrote:

X-TIR, right?

James Feinberg wrote:

Um, no. That's silly too. Unless they let me run ST-X-TIR with a Civic. Or if they let me run my road race ITR Integra in TIR: ITR-X-TIR?

See, it just gets too complicated. And silly. Plain 'ole DS-TIR it will be. From what I've heard, there are a lot of people fed up with the current tire situation in the auto-x world. Besides myself, I know of *many* others that will be making the same move for local events. It should be fun!

Jim

That was supposed to be sarcastic...&(^#*& emoticons. The more inTIR the merrier, I say. If I can get the foodies (James and Maria) to spend more time prepping food than their cars we may have a TIR class hospitality tent!

Besides, I'm tired of backing out the Rcomp vs street tire modifier to see how much more better I have to be. :roll:

JamesFeinberg · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:07 pm

David Spratte wrote:

I'm wondering what the best tire is for TIR. . .
Star Specs?

I'll be on the new hotness ST* tire. What is that? You'll have to show up to find out!

David Spratte wrote:

Or maybe we could have an Old TIR Class (OTIR) for people who want to run Azenis.

I was thinking more along the lines of leaving everybody using 200+ treadwear tires in TIR and then create a new class for 140-200 treadwear users. I even have a name: TIR-Extreme or TIRE for short.

Gwen Baake wrote:

Count us in too. My tire budget is nil. After NCAC my 710's will be shot. TIR for me too. :lol:

Sweet! Welcome to the revolution!

Steven Carter wrote:

That was supposed to be sarcastic...&(^#*& emoticons. The more inTIR the merrier, I say. If I can get the foodies (James and Maria) to spend more time prepping food than their cars we may have a TIR class hospitality tent!

I know. My response was sarcastic too. Well, everything except the part about wanting to run ITR-X-TIR.

And no foodies in my TIR class. Those people will have to find a new class. I hear X is open...

Jim

JamesShort · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:16 pm

JamesFeinberg wrote:

David Spratte wrote:

I'm wondering what the best tire is for TIR. . .
Star Specs?

I'll be on the new hotness ST* tire. What is that? You'll have to show up to find out!

ST* might be 180 treadwear and up next year so the RS3s will be illegal (and will probably get restamped to 180 shortly thereafter)

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JamesMilko · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:19 pm

Time to make the regular classes 140 treadwear and run a PAX R-comp class for everyone else. :wink:

David Spratte · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:41 pm

The plane will take off.

JamesFeinberg · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:57 pm

JamesShort wrote:

ST* might be 180 treadwear and up next year so the RS3s will be illegal (and will probably get restamped to 180 shortly thereafter)

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Riiiiiight. Do you want to buy some land?

Either way, I wont be on RS3's or any other 140 treadwear tires.

David Spratte wrote:

The plane will take off.

Weird. I thought I heard something fly over a few heads...

Jim

Ryan Holton · **Posted:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:00 pm

David Spratte wrote:

The plane will take off.

But are you really dropping the hammer, gunning for the HOLESHOT!

Chris Peterson · **Joined:** Tue Sep 16, 2003 9:02 am **Posts:** 243

What's this I hear about people jumping ship to TIR class? After looking at the damage to the budget after this past season, TIR sounds like a plan!!!! Momma wants a new house more than she wants 2 new pairs of Hoosiers! :lol:

Keith Quistorff · **Posted:** Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:57 pm

Following up on my original post - after several failed attempts I finally spoke with Jeff at Hoosier today. He was very interested in hearing about my A6 experience and, after hearing the particulars, was more than fair in offering a discounted replacement set. Gotta agree with Keith V - the folks at Hoosier offer exceptional customer service. (Now if they can just come up with a way to get A6's to hold up better on camber challenged cars.)

Aaron Buckley · **Posted:** Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:25 pm

Keith Quistorff wrote:

Following up on my original post - after several failed attempts I finally spoke with Jeff at Hoosier today. He was very interested in hearing about my A6 experience and, after hearing the particulars, was more than fair in offering a discounted replacement set. Gotta agree with Keith V - the folks at Hoosier offer exceptional customer service. (Now if they can just come up with a way to get A6's to hold up better on camber challenged cars.)

Awesome Keith. They did something similar when the mislabled a single tire of 4 at Blytheville ProSolo and I luckily was able to buy 4 used tires to run on.

For the RX-8 we ran pressures in the high 30's on Kumhos, so I would probably start in the low 40's on Hoosiers. - AB

Chuck Branscomb · **Posted:** Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:39 pm

Keith Quistorff wrote:

Following up on my original post - after several failed attempts I finally spoke with Jeff at Hoosier today. He was very interested in hearing about my A6 experience and, after hearing the particulars, was more than fair in offering a discounted replacement set. Gotta agree with Keith V - the folks at Hoosier offer exceptional customer service. (Now if they can just come up with a way to get A6's to hold up better on camber challenged cars.)

Years back when I talked with Jeff et al at Hoosier, they told me to run 50 psi up front or more if I needed it to help the situation. I don't think even higher pressure like that helps however since it just creates an even higher stress concentration on the now smaller area of that diagonal shoulder. I did try it though (think we tried as much as 52psi), and I could tell nothing different other than loss of grip, especially in braking.

Keith, what are you doing for NCAC, assuming you're going? I still have BFG R1, 245/40-18, mounted on SSR wheels if you want to borrow them. They're a couple of years old and all, so no great offer, but you're welcome to use them.

Keith Quistorff · **Posted:** Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:55 am

Chuck Branscomb wrote:

Keith, what are you doing for NCAC, assuming you're going? I still have BFG R1, 245/40-18, mounted on SSR wheels if you want to borrow them. They're a couple of years old and all, so no great offer, but you're welcome to use them.

That's a very nice offer, Chuck - thank you very much, but I should be okay for NCAC. I had an old used set of V710s in storage, just got them mounted late last week.

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