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I've always like the look of a Solstice but the lack of any usable trunk space is a killer. I still think it would a fun car to autocross. - AB

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That's a base ZOK not a GXP. GXP would run much more.
Trunk space is not as bad as the critics say, you just have to be creative in packing and/or keep the top up when space is needed. It has far more useable space than the MR2 Spyder or Fiero. We packed luggage for 2 for a week in it when we drove it to nationals.
Steven, look me up at an event. Meanwhile, if you seriously want one, make me an offer, everything has it's price.

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Chuck Frank wrote:
That's a base ZOK not a GXP. GXP would run much more.


Just to expound, Solstice with or without ZOK, CS. Solstice GXP (ie. the turbo) with or without ZOK, BS.

Obviously the ZOK is really just suspension bits. But like Chuck said, you need the entire parts list and availability may be an issue, unfortunately. Then you'll still want adjustable shocks, most likely.


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Obligatory ignorant rules question follows (sorry):

If the ZOK suspension parts are added to a non-ZOK car, what other (if any) parts also need to be added? (Origin of question is on p70, Sec 13 of GCR:

"Option package conversions may be performed between specific vehicles
of a particular make and model, but only between confi gurations
from within a particular model year. Such conversions must be totally
complete and the resultant car must meet all requirements of this Section.")

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/S ... -C180.aspx

Is that pretty inclusive of ZOK parts? If they are created by "contract suppliers" as mentioned earlier (and hence not "factory" GM)would that run afoul of Stock Class rules? I guess I'm focused on the rear suspension support and rear stabilizer bar which seems to be troublesome as it is a suspension piece not allowed per Stock rules, but could be allowed for a package swap.

Would it be better just to get an '08-09 GXP and add aftermarket FSB and adjustable shocks with ZOK springs?

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Steve are we going to see an M roadster or an e30 for sale in Swap n Sell in the near future? ;)

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Steven Carter wrote:
Obligatory ignorant rules question follows (sorry):

If the ZOK suspension parts are added to a non-ZOK car, what other (if any) parts also need to be added? (Origin of question is on p70, Sec 13 of GCR:

"Option package conversions may be performed between specific vehicles
of a particular make and model, but only between confi gurations
from within a particular model year. Such conversions must be totally
complete and the resultant car must meet all requirements of this Section.")

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/S ... -C180.aspx

Is that pretty inclusive of ZOK parts? If they are created by "contract suppliers" as mentioned earlier (and hence not "factory" GM)would that run afoul of Stock Class rules? I guess I'm focused on the rear suspension support and rear stabilizer bar which seems to be troublesome as it is a suspension piece not allowed per Stock rules, but could be allowed for a package swap.

Would it be better just to get an '08-09 GXP and add aftermarket FSB and adjustable shocks with ZOK springs?


You could get a 07-09 standard GXP roadster or 09 hardtop with manual tranny and do a full package conversion.
Package consists of front and rear swaybar (since front swaybar is optional in stock class you could substitute any front bar), front and rear springs, rear crossmember. Shocks in ZOK and base GXP were identical since GM assumed they would be replaced with aftermarket.
OEM manufacturers often contract with outside suppliers for parts, especially low volume ones. As long as they have factory part #s and were used in the original option package they are stock legal. You may not pick and choose however.

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Chuck Frank wrote:

You could get a 07-09 standard GXP roadster or 09 hardtop with manual tranny and do a full package conversion.
Package consists of front and rear swaybar (since front swaybar is optional in stock class you could substitute any front bar), front and rear springs, rear crossmember. Shocks in ZOK and base GXP were identical since GM assumed they would be replaced with aftermarket.
OEM manufacturers often contract with outside suppliers for parts, especially low volume ones. As long as they have factory part #s and were used in the original option package they are stock legal. You may not pick and choose however.


I would be careful with the bolded portion. I'm no Solstice expert by any means, but I know there were no hardtop Z0K packaged cars ever built, and with GM folding Pontiac, I doubt you could even order it this way. The convertible gets grandfathered due to the ruling, but I doubt the hardtop does. - AB

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Hardtop did have sport suspension (aka ZOK) option offered From what I've been told. If it appeared on the otion list it is legal doesn't matter if any were actually ordered or built. (per mazdaspeed miata ruling.)

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JamesShort wrote:
Steve are we going to see an M roadster or an e30 for sale in Swap n Sell in the near future? ;)


More likely the M Roadster. Still haven't given up the Quixotic dream of track days with the E30....

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Steven Carter wrote:

FS: 2001 M Roadtser. garage kept, well-serviced, 33k miles. Near perfect paint, Imola with blk/Imola interior $23k, $22k if you bring cash only. Title in hand


Get your price and give me a shout.
PS the yellow color was a 300.00 upcharge.

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