autocrossing on a plugged tire

JamesShort · **Posted:** Mon May 03, 2010 7:07 pm

Got a monster screw in my brand new tire (seemed to be a electrical cable holding clip with a screw through it) on MLK in CH. I pulled into city hall and luckily had my plug kit and air compressor with me so I went to town....pulled the nail...pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Anyway, I plugged it, pumped it up and drove off. Pumped it to 50 psi when I got home and it's holding steady (cooled down psi).

Would you guys advise against autoxing on this tire? A quick google shows that plenty of people do and a decent number of people advise against it (with no experience to back their cautiousness).

EDIT: Best part, as I had the ass end of the car in the air with no wheel on it and reaming the hole on the tire on the sidewalk...sweating like a dog, a bitchy woman came out and told me that I can't park there!.....my response: "Does it look like I'm parking".....what an idiot.

RodneyWright · **Posted:** Mon May 03, 2010 7:49 pm

autox'g is not much of a problem considering the speeds. Now, if you were tracking, I think the general rule is not to run a plugged tire for safety reasons.

BTW, I assume you put the tire back on and moved the car since you were illegally parked...

JamesShort · **Posted:** Mon May 03, 2010 7:54 pm

RodneyWright wrote:

autox'g is not much of a problem considering the speeds. Now, if you were tracking, I think the general rule is not to run a plugged tire for safety reasons.

BTW, I assume you put the tire back on and moved the car since you were illegally parked...

I should have handed the keys to her and told her to park it legally for me on 3 wheels.

ColinOConnell · **Posted:** Mon May 03, 2010 8:16 pm

I ran most of a season on a plugged V710 without any issues. Actually I ran those tires all the way down to the cords - (corded the cords)

Steven Carter · **Posted:** Mon May 03, 2010 8:31 pm

doesn't your road hazard apply to this, or is there sufficient wear on the tire that a new single tire might throw balance off? {guessing on that last part}

JamesShort · **Posted:** Mon May 03, 2010 8:32 pm

Steven Carter wrote:

doesn't your road hazard apply to this, or is there sufficient wear on the tire that a new single tire might throw balance off? {guessing on that last part}

There is effectively 0 wear on the tires...but the tire itself doesn't exist anymore

. And what do you mean by road hazard?

BriceJohnson · **Joined:** Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:33 am **Posts:** 2230

I'd recommend taking it to a place to get a proper plug put in (from the inside), but thats me.

Realistically, the only concern would be the heat and higher pressures causing it to pop out. You're probably fine.

Arthur McDonald · **Joined:** Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:54 am **Posts:** 2052

BriceJohnson wrote:

I'd recommend taking it to a place to get a proper plug put in (from the inside), but thats me.

Realistically, the only concern would be the heat and higher pressures causing it to pop out. You're probably fine.

Get a real patch. I don't want to be working the course when your plug fails. (I did have one leak on a street tire years ago). When you plug the tire, you dig a bigger hole though the the steel belts (which isn't so good for the tire's integrity), and the jagged edges are bound to chew on the plug.

JamesShort · **Posted:** Mon May 03, 2010 10:58 pm

I guess the 36k miles i put on my Civic with a plugged sidewall (!!!) via me doesn't mean much in this conversation

. I'm calling Mark tomorrow to see if he'll mushroom it.

MikeWhitney · **Joined:** Wed Aug 20, 2003 9:15 pm **Posts:** 4724

Don't forget Discount tire does free proper inside patch repairs. Go see Jeb.

Steven Carter · **Posted:** Tue May 04, 2010 8:24 am

JamesShort wrote:

Steven Carter wrote:

doesn't your road hazard apply to this, or is there sufficient wear on the tire that a new single tire might throw balance off? {guessing on that last part}

There is effectively 0 wear on the tires...but the tire itself doesn't exist anymore

. And what do you mean by road hazard?

Road hazard is the little warranty folks pay to get a replacement tire should it get damaged by road debris.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/roadHazard/trhp.jsp

JamesShort · **Posted:** Tue May 04, 2010 9:00 am

Steven Carter wrote:

JamesShort wrote:

Steven Carter wrote:

doesn't your road hazard apply to this, or is there sufficient wear on the tire that a new single tire might throw balance off? {guessing on that last part}

There is effectively 0 wear on the tires...but the tire itself doesn't exist anymore

. And what do you mean by road hazard?

Road hazard is the little warranty folks pay to get a replacement tire should it get damaged by road debris.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/roadHazard/trhp.jsp

Got it, I thought you meant the Subaru 3/36k thing. I looked through it and didn't see anything about tire damage.

WalterHouston · **Posted:** Tue May 04, 2010 10:54 am

Arthur McDonald wrote:

BriceJohnson wrote:

I'd recommend taking it to a place to get a proper plug put in (from the inside), but thats me.

Realistically, the only concern would be the heat and higher pressures causing it to pop out. You're probably fine.

Get a real patch. I don't want to be working the course when your plug fails. (I did have one leak on a street tire years ago). When you plug the tire, you dig a bigger hole though the the steel belts (which isn't so good for the tire's integrity), and the jagged edges are bound to chew on the plug.

Art and Mike are right. I never run a plugged tire. Get a proper inside patch and forget it.

Bernie Baake · **Posted:** Tue May 04, 2010 1:17 pm

A good rule of thumb is if your in doubt, Don't. That way there won't be any safety issues in your mind. Get it patched properly

WalterHouston · **Posted:** Tue May 04, 2010 4:09 pm

Bernie Baake wrote:

A good rule of thumb is if you're in doubt, Don't. That way there won't be any safety issues in your mind. Get it patched properly

Take that advice. This is a good rule for just about everything. Almost every time I've asked myself, "Are you sure you should do this," I wished I had not done it.

I think in his younger years Bernie didn't follow that advice and there might be a couple (or more) kids walking around that look like him! :lol:

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