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 Post subject: Body Shop info
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:14 pm 
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Hey gang. Ann tagged a deer. Erie wants us to use their preferred vendors, of course. Their list has the following:

True 2 Form
Haddock

They will accept:

Hendrick Collision
Capital Ford Collision

I'm thinking Hendrick first choice but Erie suggests True 2 Form.

Anyone used True 2 Form or Haddock?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:16 pm 
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My coworker used True2Form over near Capital Blvd when he got rear ended. You can't even tell that his car was hit. They did a good job and he recommends them.

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Graham Jagger wrote:
Hey gang. Ann tagged a deer. Erie wants us to use their preferred vendors, of course. Their list has the following:

True 2 Form
Haddock

They will accept:

Hendrick Collision
Capital Ford Collision

I'm thinking Hendrick first choice but Erie suggests True 2 Form.

Anyone used True 2 Form or Haddock?


I used True2Form on Capital back in 2002. The work was done well, but took a LONG time. - AB

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Don't use the True2form in Cary. They suck. Very little attention to detail. I had to get them to re-paint and fix several things on the M3 when I took it there.

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I used Hendrick in Cary to put the GTO back together. Basically replaced everything in front of the firewall except the motor. Really only had 2 issues wit the work and both were very minor.


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I'm curious as I'm an Erie customer as well. Do they accept Colors on Parade?

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Michael Westerfield wrote:
I'm curious as I'm an Erie customer as well. Do they accept Colors on Parade?


I know a lot of people love Lloyd and Colors on Parade. After going there to have a front & rear bumper covers done on my Celica, I wouldn't recommend anyone going there. They "blended" into the sides of the car along with clearcoat. Problem is that they never sanded between coats. I now have a nice flaking of clearcoat coming off the driver door... underneath the layer that flakes off is beautiful clearcoat (original Toyota), which tells me (and other body shops that have looked at it) that they just kept spraying clear without any prep in between.

I'm sure others have had good experiences there, but I thought mine was good at first, but years later, I realize it wasn't. - AB

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ok so something I deal with alot.

True to Form I have heard both good and bad about them. Dealing with the people there are a pain!!!

Haddocks are great folks, i do tons of business with them each and every day and have never had a problem with them.

Hendricks are also a good customer of mine.

i have used Autoshape in Durham for my personal cars, they were good and quick on my first one but the miata they have now has taken a while.

If I had to do it again I would use one of hte 4 Haddocks stores.

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I've seen, in person, a Silverstone S2000 that was "repaired" by True2Form. It was atrocious. I wouldn't let them paint my lawnmower. I can find out which of their stores she used, if that would be helpful.

As an aside, I've been led to believe, over the years, that the insurance company can't require you to use one shop over another. But that's probably a question for Cline.

Anyway, I thought this was interesting:

Aaron Buckley wrote:
I know a lot of people love Lloyd and Colors on Parade. After going there to have a front & rear bumper covers done on my Celica, I wouldn't recommend anyone going there. They "blended" into the sides of the car along with clearcoat. Problem is that they never sanded between coats. I now have a nice flaking of clearcoat coming off the driver door... underneath the layer that flakes off is beautiful clearcoat (original Toyota), which tells me (and other body shops that have looked at it) that they just kept spraying clear without any prep in between.

I'm sure others have had good experiences there, but I thought mine was good at first, but years later, I realize it wasn't. - AB


That's crazy, Aaron, because my experience has been exactly the same. The work was pretty half assed.

Colors on Parade has done my front bumper twice. The first time, it needed to be replaced altogether, and best I can remember, he did a pretty good job. The second time was another matter. I made the mistake of picking up the car in the evening. Later, I discovered that there was some overspray on both kidney grills to either side of the radiator opening. I brought the car back to him and pointed out the problem. He explained to me that it was a difficult area to mask. I guess I looked at him incredulously, because he walked off, and returned with something that looked like a black Sharpie, but may have been a touch up pen. No matter, though - he was trying to apply black to something that is supposed to be bare plastic. It's not supposed to have any paint on it at all. I kindly suggested to him that I'd try to fix it myself, got in the car, and left.

Later on, I continued to find shortcuts and mistakes. The nose of an S2000 includes a lot of interlocking black plastic undertrays. I've found silver overspray on nearly all of them in one place or another. Which is strange, given that he told me part of the time he needed was for taking the bumper off the car. I also found several pieces of masking tape - all easy to spot - that were left in there. Easy enough to remove, but I shouldn't have to do it myself.

Then there was the grill in the radiator opening. I found that to be attached to the car with double stick tape, rather than with the clips that are supposed to be there. He suggested to me that this was something the last shop that worked on the car had done. When I told him that the last shop was HIS shop, well, he didn't like that.

The impression that I get is that he's become mostly interested in working on old Mopar stuff. I felt like he didn't want to be bothered with me. I even recommended him to friends of mine, and Lloyd told at least one of them that he didn't want to do the work, because "the car isn't worth very much and it's a waste of money." :(

I need to have some work done again, and have found a place in Burlington that I'm going to try. Several local S2000 owners have used him, and the work that I've seen so far has been excellent. I spent a day detailing a car that had been fixed there, and came away very impressed. It was a Rio Yellow S2000, which is a notoriously hard color to match. The match was dead on, it had been properly masked, and I didn't find any loose grills or masking tape. I'll let you guys know how he does with mine.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:54 pm 
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Karl Shultz wrote:
As an aside, I've been led to believe, over the years, that the insurance company can't require you to use one shop over another. But that's probably a question for Cline.


I thought this was true also. I know companies have 'preferred shops', but I didn't think they could force you to use one of them.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:00 pm 
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That's correct. You can use the shop you want. The list I was given was what Erie has on their list of preferred shops.

If your quote from your preferred shop comes in higher than they agree. They will want a quote from one of their shops. Then will work with you on what they consider fair. So you maybe out of pocket to use your shop if it is too high priced.

Thanks for the comments so far guys. Ann has an appointment at Hendrick tomorrow. Then True 2 Form on Westgate early next week. We'll see how the numbers work out. I'll also post my opinion of whichever shop we use.

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I told Graham this but just to add my $.02 we had our Mazda 6 wagon repaired by Haddock in Cary. They painted the front end and they did a good job on the paint match and over the last 3 years it has held up. Their detail work left a bit to be desired. First they tried to fix the hood and when I picked it up I noticed that it wasn't aligned correctly. They said that it was as good as they could get it w/o replacing the hood. Well duh, so they replaced it. (More time) The other thing that they did (or in this case did not do was replace all the fasteners. The undertray has about 1/2 of the fasteners on it so it hangs down in places and there are several of those places that I have just noticed.


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I would avoid True2Form on Westgate in Raleigh unless you're a fan of orange peel. They're very good at that.

Agree about COP too. Never understood all the positive feedback here.

Caveats: COP experience was years ago - when they were on Capital Blvd.
True2Form was recent.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:56 pm 
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Capital Ford did the rear bumper on our 97 Laser Red Mustang a couple of years ago (State Farm preferred vendor). ABSOLUTELY PERFECT.

FYI they used a "junk yard bumper cover" and painted it to match our car . . . perfectly. There may have been some adjacent sheetmetal that was painted also.

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 Post subject: Re: Body Shop info
PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:34 pm 
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Bump. Anyone have any feed back to add to this thread? I have a small dent I need to get fixed.

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