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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:54 pm 
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Guys, I'd like point out that Remchak has now been featured on YouTube. You guys are bound to get a kick out of this if you haven't seen it already.


that was freaking funny.... thx VK!

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:55 pm 
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Controversial ideas...

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Make the forum public.

While keeping it private seems to continue to have the support of those on the forum, I think this forum ends up serving just a select group of members who visit on a regular basis. Keeping it closed might be great for them, but I don't think it is a positive thing for the club. I think opening it up could do the following...

* Serve as a recruiting tool. I suspect a number of people who are thinking about getting involved would love to lurk on the form to get a feel as to who we are and what we do prior to them pulling the trigger on their first event. Right now, if they are brave enough, they have to show up to event #1 pretty much blind. They have to figure out and navigate the entire "event experience", without knowing anyone. I suspect that most novices these days are here along with a friend that already is a member or have done this before elsewhere. How many just show up out of the blue? It also might be great for these same novices to show up Monday morning and to join in on the post event discussions. That experience and feeling of "belonging" may push them into deciding to join the club. I suspect that once in, they are more likely to stay.

* Help the track program. I think the track program may also be suffering somewhat due to the closed nature of the forum. If there is one part of THSCC that relies heavily upon non-members it is the track program. As far as I know there is no home for THSCC/TZC track program as far as an online forum is concerned. I have had a number of people ask to join the forum due to track related stuff (questions about events, looking to partner up with people on travel, etc.), but they are not particularly interested in joining the club (at that moment). I have to turn them away. So I suspect it just doesn't provide as nice as experience as it could.

I am no position to dictate how this would go down, but I feel pretty strongly that if we were to choose to do this that we should restart/relaunch the forum and not open this one up. This one could run in parallel for a few weeks to allow people to get access to IMs, etc. but it would then be shut down. Yes, we would loose a bunch of post history, but that looses value over time. I also am not a fan of a special "members only" section due to the headache associated with the upkeep (membership is always changing). However it would be relatively easy to keep private THSCC officers and Staff forums (invisible to you mere mortals already)

Better Membership Management and related proactive outreach.

I hate to even bring up how we crash and burn each time we try to automate our membership system. While it may not initially increase event participation, it may help keep members from slowly drifting off on their own. Automatic renewals, email reminders, event reminders, etc. I don't want to spam people, but I see no reason to not reach out to people at least once a year to maybe let them know about the schedule, special events, or even to just remind them that their membership is about to expire. I think that I have received emails like this from the track program side of the club. This needs to be expanded.

Utilize modern social networking (and technology in general)

This is not actually controversal and there seems to already be some great progress on this already. I haven't been to an autocross in quite awhile, but I think the work on pushing out results live is great. I also know there has been some work on Facebook. We need to keep that up. Should we setup a twitter account? I think that live tweets when something such as new FTD times are set at events might be cool? There could also be occasional tweets after events to direct people to post event discussion threads on the forum (one example). This is such a high tech area, we should be leading the pack nationally on how to do this.

Discuss... 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:47 pm 
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Works for me Richard. Granted if we went public with our forums your role would become more influential but I have no issue with that either.

I found THSCC because I was looking for a local club that offered a "race" outlet.

Let's face it, most of us stumbled up here knowing far less than we know today.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:01 am 
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For the first time since I've known him, I agree with Richard 100%.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
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Jason Mauldin wrote:
For the first time since I've known him, I agree with Richard 100%.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
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We should also change to something that allows for easier use on smartphones.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:42 am 
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I agree with you also Richard.

I could give a crap less about the social networking stuff, but since that is important to the younger crowd that will be the base for our future membership I don't disagree with utilizing it.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
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There are forum software packages that are already membership based. You can set them up so that they allow members to use PayPal to pay, and once that goes through they get access to special sections, and increased features. I don't think it is free like this software though, but it might be worth it, if it can give us a jumpstart on a membership database.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:19 pm 
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Jason Mauldin wrote:
<snip> I agree with Richard 100%.


Same here. I could smell the tar and feathers being brought out the last time I mentioned this.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
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I've been going back and forth this year about how I felt about this but the main question is: will the benefits of attracting new members by opening ALL the forums to anybody outweigh the benefits of using the forum priviledges as a great reminder to toss the renewal check in the mail to keep the club going. I mean this in a constructive way of course.

Just food for though from an auto-x, hpde, or rally perspective. How many of us have planned to do an event with a club we've never run with and checked out their forum to get some info from the event thread? Or, checked out the event thread to shoot the breeze with course discussion, how the day went, or anything else.


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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:14 pm 
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Matt McGrain wrote:
I've been going back and forth this year about how I felt about this but the main question is: will the benefits of attracting new members by opening ALL the forums to anybody outweigh the benefits of using the forum priviledges as a great reminder to toss the renewal check in the mail to keep the club going. I mean this in a constructive way of course.

Just food for though from an auto-x, hpde, or rally perspective. How many of us have planned to do an event with a club we've never run with and checked out their forum to get some info from the event thread? Or, checked out the event thread to shoot the breeze with course discussion, how the day went, or anything else.

Matt,
I agree with you 100%. We're seeking more members to keep the club going strong. There are too many other places drivers can go to chat with friends, or potential friends, for us to make visiting our forum a membership requirement.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:16 pm 
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Matt McGrain wrote:
I've been going back and forth this year about how I felt about this but the main question is: will the benefits of attracting new members by opening ALL the forums to anybody outweigh the benefits of using the forum priviledges as a great reminder to toss the renewal check in the mail to keep the club going. I mean this in a constructive way of course.

Just food for though from an auto-x, hpde, or rally perspective. How many of us have planned to do an event with a club we've never run with and checked out their forum to get some info from the event thread? Or, checked out the event thread to shoot the breeze with course discussion, how the day went, or anything else.



AGree with this and also with a way of making the website more interactive and interlinked with our FB page etc. Give more people a way to find out about us

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:41 am 
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Well, this is an interesting development and one that I tend to agree with in regard to opening up the forums and making them public. While it's been great to have these closed off to just the THSCC family, I think we're in the position where we need more visibility and hopefully pull in more members. I'll start a separate voting thread on making the forums public. I assume we'll no longer be able to request actual names be used. I do like the use of real names on this forum.

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 Post subject: Re: Thoughts on improving the club?
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RodneyWright wrote:
I assume we'll no longer be able to request actual names be used. I do like the use of real names on this forum.


No, please keep that one!!! Open forum, if you use your real name.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:59 am 
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Ryan Holton wrote:
RodneyWright wrote:
I assume we'll no longer be able to request actual names be used. I do like the use of real names on this forum.


No, please keep that one!!! Open forum, if you use your real name.


Agreed. Only way to minimize the trolls. :wink:


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