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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:28 am 
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Matt McGrain wrote:
Flashback to April '03. "Speed Thrills". Sanford. First event for me and I found THSCC through the googles, showed up, didn't know a soul, and knew victory was imminent because a had a new shinny Type R. :roll: http://thscc.com/autocross/events/2003/ ... 7indx.html

Seven hours later, I was really bummed, stunk it up, didn't really meet anyone, packed up my stuff and as I was getting ready to leave, prez at the time, Shawn Whipple pulls up in his prepped DS yellow ITR, offers a ridealong, I jump in and have a totally new perspective of how to get through the course quickly and realized that it's okay to slide the car a bit to be quick (now I know it's called slip angle and even just read a book that explained the optimal angle and how it affects speed :roll: ). Ten minutes before this I had sworn off autocross as another 'tried that'. Just riding with a Novice and/or letting them ride along with you can really boost confidence and there's a much higher likelihood they'll be back for another event. :thumbsup:


i was the complete opposite. I knew I was going to win by default since I was driving a type R j/k . hell, i didnt even drive. the car drove itself.
Hopefully I can bring back the undefeated type R this year. non cheater car. 1st place novice for life!

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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:00 am 
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RobLupella wrote:
I agree with all this novice encouragement stuff, I always find it rewarding to watch a novice's time drop and see the light go on.

. Maybe we can get them buttons and let novices know that if they have a green button they are novice friendly, if they don't they are crabby ba*ta@ds and don't talk to them ;-)


if you do that put me on the list, for not being a crabby ba*ta@d

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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:06 am 
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Andrew Jonell wrote:
Judging by Steve's post in my thread, I think Steve just wants the club's approval to let him run in Novice this year because he hasn't been out in so long.

I'm open to the idea.


He'd still lose. Seriously Steve sucks at at _least_ two things:

1. Using Tools
2. Autocross

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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:10 am 
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I thought he was banned in the state of NC for using tools??

Vincent Keene wrote:
Andrew Jonell wrote:
Judging by Steve's post in my thread, I think Steve just wants the club's approval to let him run in Novice this year because he hasn't been out in so long.

I'm open to the idea.


He'd still lose. Seriously Steve sucks at at _least_ two things:

1. Using Tools
2. Autocross

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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:53 am 
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jeremy gast wrote:
I thought he was banned in the state of NC for using tools??

Vincent Keene wrote:
Andrew Jonell wrote:
Judging by Steve's post in my thread, I think Steve just wants the club's approval to let him run in Novice this year because he hasn't been out in so long.

I'm open to the idea.


He'd still lose. Seriously Steve sucks at at _least_ two things:

1. Using Tools
2. Autocross


Steve working on a BMW - without Dave!

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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:50 pm 
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Matt McGrain wrote:
Flashback to April '03. "Speed Thrills". Sanford. First event for me and I found THSCC through the googles, showed up, didn't know a soul, and knew victory was imminent because a had a new shinny Type R. :roll: http://thscc.com/autocross/events/2003/ ... 7indx.html


Wow, 150 drivers with timed entry, those were the good ole days. Me and MR2s just did not get along.

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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:52 pm 
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KendtEklund wrote:
jeremy gast wrote:
I thought he was banned in the state of NC for using tools??

Vincent Keene wrote:

He'd still lose. Seriously Steve sucks at at _least_ two things:

1. Using Tools
2. Autocross


Steve working on a BMW - without Dave!


Somewhere I have a picture of him actually changing brake pads without Dave. I'll try to find it and post it :-)

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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:06 am 
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A while back I offered to make some buttons to identify the helpful folks.

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And the not so helpfful folks.

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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:56 am 
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George Bright wrote:
A while back I offered to make some buttons to identify the helpful folks.

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And the not so helpfful folks.

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My vote would be to do it, club officers????

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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:13 pm 
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George Bright wrote:
A while back I offered to make some buttons to identify the helpful folks.

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And the not so helpfful folks.

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Keep the 80's alive George :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:15 pm 
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I'm not wearing a button. But I'd be ok with bringing back the Hawaiian shirts.


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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:47 pm 
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Hawaiian shirts? When was that? I'd be down for anything that makes noobs feel welcomed. Seriously, let's think of something that's easy to indentify.

Perhaps we should make more of a note about our forums to get novices interested in joining (or maybe not?? not sure) and becoming part of the club socially. I went an entire year without knowing the forums existed. Had I known as a Novice I would have been a little more excited about the camaraderie and chit chat about the events. Face it, half of autocrossing is event day and the other half is studying, buying & installing go fast parts, and socializing online between events.


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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
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Matt McGrain wrote:
Hawaiian shirts? When was that? I'd be down for anything that makes noobs feel welcomed. Seriously, let's think of something that's easy to indentify.

Perhaps we should make more of a note about our forums to get novices interested in joining (or maybe not?? not sure) and becoming part of the club socially. I went an entire year without knowing the forums existed. Had I known as a Novice I would have been a little more excited about the camaraderie and chit chat about the events. Face it, half of autocrossing is event day and the other half is studying, buying & installing go fast parts, and socializing online between events.



EEEK you said a dirty word "socializing" ;-)

We can keep posting on the forum about it but a lot of the novices don't read it frequently. I like the button/ribbon/identifying tattoo that marks them at the event as Novice Friendly so we can tell them to look for the sign of the "X" for help. Maybe give them blue vests like Walmart Greeters... :D

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 Post subject: Re: entrant retention and the case for YLN
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:40 pm 
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I remember when I started, people would say if you wanted help figuring out the course, or a ride along or whatever, just go find somebody in a Hawaiian shirt. Hoppe, Whipple, etc. I joined the Hawaiian shirts once I got pretty decent, so I'd be more available to help. I don't think anybody I remember wearing one back then actually shows up anymore, besides myself.


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